From: kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman) Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: WWF Prime Time Wrestling - 19/10/92 Keywords: 2 hours of good family entertainment capsuled (or capsized) Message-ID: <23192@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 21 Oct 92 01:04:38 GMT Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu Lines: 192 Nntp-Posting-Host: watnxt01.ucr.edu WWF PrimeTime Wrestling, shown on the USA Network 19.10.92 Opening Credits: No changes. The "panel of experts" includes Hillbilly Jim, Hacksaw Jim Duggan (ICOPRO T shirt), Vince McMahon, Bobby the Brain Heenan, and Mr. Perfect. The panel discusses Bret Hart's win in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Perfect says Flair "was sick as a dog," while Heenan says the win "was a fluke." Hacksaw points out that Hart has won all three titles, and although Heenan says "any superstar can beat any other superstar," he qualifies it with "on a fluke!" Vince points out that the Sharpshooter was the same move Hart used to take the IC title from Mr. Perfect, and Perfect scowls. I thought this was about the time Hart was still using (but almost done with) the figure four. Oh well. Mean Gene Okerlund interviews Hart. What a boring interview. "The biggest dreams can still come true." Hart gives an Academy Awards speech, thanking his father, every single wrestler he's ever wrestled against, Ric Flair (fans cheer!), his fans, his friends, his family, and God. Bret better thank God, 'cause it's a miracle he beat Flair. <-- my mark comment Max[imillian] Moon v. Rick Martel (no feathers) (announcers Gorilla Monsoon, Lord Alfred Hayes) Lots of meaningless somersaulting by Moon. No dizziness. Monsoon and Hayes can't stop congradulating Hart. Lots of "high impact" manouevres by Moon until Martel throws him into a turnbuckle. Martel with a grapevine, with leverage from the rope. Referee "Blind" Dave Hebner notices the rope and calls for the break, and Moon puts *Martel* into a grapevine. This Martel gets out of by hitting Moon in the face. Moon has more moves which the announcers don't have names for, and gets a reverse sunset flip for 2. Martel rolls over into a pin with the aid of a tights grab. 1, 2, oh wait, Hebner's seen the grab, and he's had enough. DQ win for Moon, what an impressive victory! Shawn Michaels v. Steve Gillespie (Vince McMahon, Mr. Perfect) McMahon mentions the Hart/Flair/Perfect/Sharpshooter similarity *again*, and for an encore compares Michaels to Perfect, Flair, and Hart, "all highly technical wrestlers." Catch the drift here? Michaels with the patented side suplex. Update with Lord Alfred Hayes, sponsored by "WWF Rampage 92," available in stores this Thursday. Bret Hart, you may not know, is the new WWF champion. Ultimate Maniacs interview. Congradulations, Bret, and threats for Razor and Flair. The Warrior is wearing the Shades of Maniacism, which leads me to believe he played Dungeons and Dragons as a child. "There is a bond that will last for ever...and ever...and ever..." which in the WWF is about three to six months. Interview with Perfect, Razor, and the Nature Boy. For some reason, Flair is grinning like a goof throughout the entire interview. Flair promises to take out all his anger against the Ultimate Madness. Panel. Vince asks whose fault it is that Flair lost the title...Heenan, Perfect, or Flair? Perfect and Heenan look at each other and simultaneously say "Flair." Skinner v. Chad Allmont (Monsoon, Hayes) Hey, this match was all Skinner! No doubt due to the new tough refs, Skinner only pulls up Allmont's head once before giving the Alligator neckbreaker for the pin. ******The GREAT Barry Horowitz****** v. Big Boss Man (McMahon, Perfect) Horowitz fakes out the Bossman three times and smacks him once. This angers the Bossman, who chases Horowitz around the ring and ends up giving Barry a boot to the head. He then BLATANTLY copies Horowitz' pat on the back. Inset interview with Boss Man, who discusses Nailz and Slaughter. After all sorts of illegal punches (which for some reason leads to no DQ), Boss Man wins with the hard time slam. I didn't get to hear my favorite Horowitz retort-to-a-superstar: "I'M the Boss around here!" Panel discusses a Nailz/BBM matchup, and the decisions are mixed. Hacksaw does get to wax eloquent about today's criminal system, however. Sean Mooney, with Event Center. Before the canned interview, Heenan compares marriage to the electric chair. Mooney, you may recall, is soon to marry. Heenan then asks if Sensational Sherri has picked her gown yet. Get it? Sherri's in love with Shawn MICHAELS, not MOONEY. Get it? Get it? A dumb Crush interview. Heenan then asks Mooney where they'll honeymoon. Mooney, in a rare comebacker, says maybe Saskatoon. Then he says no, they're thinking about Hawaii. Heenan: "I didn't know Greyhound went there!" As we break you can hear Heenan in the background saying "All aboard!" which is not the Greyhound slogan. Okerlund with the Survivor Series report. Cool sound effects. The main event, you know. The "new" matches: A coffin match, Undertaker v. Kamala, to win you must stuff your opponent into a coffin. Also: an "exciting" 8 man tag with the Natural Disasters and the Bushwhackers against Money, Inc. and the Beverly Brothers. If a man is eliminated, so also is his tag partner which I guess means the match will be shorter than a SS match. Amazingly BAD faces interview. Promos: George Foreman KO Nintendo cartridges, Electronic Talking Battleship ("Yeah!") and WWF Figures The Feature Match: Papa Shango v. Randy Savage (Monsoon, Hayes) Savage is not limping. Shango wants a test of strength, gets it, and turns it into a choke. Savage gets Shango into a corner, but can't pull him out. Shango with a big slam, a bigger headbutt, a kick to the gut and a choke on the turnbuckle. Then a boring bear hug. Hayes pronounces "Shango" three different ways. Savage with the Stooges' eye poke breaking the hold. Shango with roundhouse right, boot to the head, power slam...think he'll win? THREE times he drops the elbow...1...2...but he gets up for absolutely no reason, presumably because the crowd is chanting "Ma-cho-man...ma-cho-man..." Shango slowly climbs the rope and leaps and misses. Amazing resurgence for Savage culminating in a double axe handle off the top to the floor. Power slam, and an elbow off the top (tm). 1,2,3. Money, Inc. v. Jim Powers and Bobby St. Laurent (Monsoon, Hayes) Money, Inc. comes out but the Natural Disasters are on the Jeopardy screens, which angers them. IRS indirectly announces a support of the Democratic ticket. Yes, once again Jim Powers holds his own, and once again blows the match by tagging out to his loser of the night. St. Laurent is worked over for about half an hour. Monsoon says the 8 man tag is really "6 against 4" with the Genius and Jimmy Hart on the outside, but maybe Slaughter will ensure a fair match. No mention of the #1 controversy. IRS pins St. Laurent, while Powers looks for Brunzell. Back with the panel, Vince wonders aloud why Jimmy Hart didn't pair Money, Inc. with the Nasty Boys (which was my prediction). Heenan has a funny, Ron Zeigler-like 1000 word answer which ends with "...and there's always room for Jello" and says basically nothing. Okerlund explains the coffin match to the crowd and interviews Paul Bearer. He come out with a coffin (the top is moving, hint, hint) "It's a grave situation for Kamala." I guess this then is the Undertaker's Gravest Challenge (tm). Paul takes Gene to the coffin, but Gene won't look. Inside is the Undertaker, looking dead. He springs to life and Gene says "Oh my God!" in a frigtened manner. UT says he'll take Kamala's soul "to the dark side," and the marks cheer. UT does his neat eye trick and sits back as the coffin closes. Now, Vince asks how Heenan and Perfect plan for Flair's THIRD title reign. Perfect succinctly announces: "Plan C." British Bulldog v. Jim Peterson (Monsoon, Hayes) Why, yes, Hart/Smith *WAS* the greatest match Monsoon has ever seen. And yes, Smith does get the half hour suplex and power slam and pin. Bob Backlund pictures with family. Bob Backlund building a house. More sensitive music, more McMahon. Bob "has to do what he has to do. He must return to the World Wrestling Federation." WHY? WHY? What does he have to do? Does this make sense? Will anyone explain it? Is this a Vince plan? What am I thinking? **EL** Matador v. Kamala (Monsoon, Hayes) I believe this is the week old syndie match. Whippleman does get to make fun of McGuirk. Santana grabs Kamala from behind but gets sandwiched with a turnbuckle. Kamala, in the funniest move of the night, asks for a test of strength. Tito is too quick, though. I love the way Kamala leans backward without falling. After a boring bear hug by the Ugandan Giant and a lot of grimacing by Santana, referee "Blind" Dave Hebner tries the arm but it only falls twice. Santana with a shot to the head to break the hold but it only gives Kamala more offensive moves. Finally when Kamala throws Tito into the corner and follows, he meets up with Santana's boot. Sanata with three dropkicks, Kamala still doesn't fall, but the flying forearm finally gets him off his feet. Santana is ready to try the pin, but Kim Chee jumps up on the ring distracting him. Kamala kicks Santana in the back, and is ready for the finishing splash when Paul Bearer comes out with a coffin allowing for the hilarious Kamala flee and countout win for the face. I guess now Santana is going to have to make a save for UT as payback for the good turn. Jamison comes in and asks where he can get a Hart signature for his new WWF Magazine. He gets smacked. Hacksaw climbs the table to protect Jamison. Promos: Electronic Hot Shot Basketball, GI Joe, WWF Nintendo cartridges Panel. Once again, Vince beams and smugly rubs it in about Hart. Heenan recaps the history of the IC belt from Perfect to Smith, his point being Hart can be beat, a point which is lost on the Jims and Vince. Natural Disasters v. Kenny Johnson and Victor Reeves (Monsoon, Hayes) 8 man tag is discussed. Inset interview of Jimmy Hart. Who is #1 contender team? "I don't have to tell you anything...but I *do* have a plan!" Obviously, Plan D. Johnson and Reeves end up between Typhoon and the pole, and even though Hebner gesticulates wildly for him not to do it, Earthquake splashes the whole lot of them. He is NOT disqualified, and the jobbers do not become Tag champs. Disasters win with splash and quake. The last shot is one of Hart winning the belt. In a separate post, I will tell you why Hart is going to be champ for awhile. Hart seems to have lost his top. Perfect can't believe it. Fadeout. Next week: They didn't say. Even though Flair is dethroned, he will ALWAYS be a champ to me, at least until Barry Horowitz gets the belt. WOOOO! Christopher Zimmerman | "Ohhhhhh mis ter o ker lund...come here! kzim@watserv.ucr.edu | Come here! Come here!" - Paul Bearer, the kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu | victim of a permanent atomic drop -- From: kzim@watserv.ucr.edu (Christopher Robin Zimmerman) Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: WWF Prime Time Errata and HH hits the news Keywords: WWF WCW fun fun fun Message-ID: <23415@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 28 Oct 92 01:13:54 GMT Sender: news@galaxy.ucr.edu Lines: 30 Nntp-Posting-Host: watnxt01.ucr.edu As a result of my having "all I could drink" Dr. Pepper at Taco Bell last week, I neglected to mention a PrimeTime match from 19 October, High Energy and the Beverly Brothers, which was a significant match, marking the return of the long absent *time limit draw* match, which I hadn't seen for about nine months. As soon as the Fink announced a ten minute time limit, I knew it was a draw (you probably did too), and as mark ranks go this is probably why these two teams were not considered in the "#1 tag team contender" controversy. As if that wasn't enough, KNBC, Los Angeles' Channel 4, saw fit to include a Hallowe'en Havoc report in their 5pm Sports Report. With glee, Fred Roggin recounted Paul E. Dangerously "firing" Madusa, Madusa undressing Rude, Rude taking out 2 refs by landing on them, Sting spinning the wheel, Jake the Snake looking mean, Jake hurting himself hurting Sting, Cactus Jack bringing out the snake, Sting smacking Roberts with the glove and Roberts getting gnawed. No results were mentioned, presumably due to the fact that KNBC misreported the WWF house show a couple weeks back. Video was "Courtesy WCW." The female anchor was disgusted, the male anchor was amused (and apparently a CJ fan--but he thought Roberts bled too much), and Roggin confirmed that "the snake was OK." Followup to alt.conspiracy: Isn't it *funny* how the WWF and WCW both get time on KNBC within weeks of each other? Christopher Zimmerman / kzim@watserv.ucr.edu / kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu / zimmerma@ucrengr.ucr.edu /